Showing posts with label sightings. Show all posts
Showing posts with label sightings. Show all posts

Incentive for Hacking UFOs: Intelligence + Science upgrade = Reality shift

“The prevailing materialist view of the universe restricts and falsifies our understanding of reality.” Arthur Ford, Unknown But Known: My Adventure into the Meditative Dimension, Amazon.

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Enjoying the UFO dialogues on twitter ... drama ... and progress .... Thanks to the now public position that UFOs are real, stigma regarding the topic is easing ... just went poof...

As for full 'disclosure'- given what was discussed in the 5.17.22 US Government hearing on UFOs, I suspect access and incident details will remain limited or on a case by case basis.

Caveat = use of the terms "threat" and "military" regarding a sighting. Expect limited information to be provided. Considering that the source with the tech most efficient in providing evidence of a sighting is military - the possibility of opening that content to public info stream is again relegating it to FOIA. Or not at all.

Progress? The cloak of ridicule is off and derision is no longer a knee jerk response. Summary from the 5.17. 22 event from various media.


YouTube Full session - 
Full Transcript. The Debrief

In the hearing details [paraphrased] - @ 1:00 No #UAP collisions but 11 near misses. No communication from or to the objects. Considered #Unmanned. Wreckage: UAP task force has none considered ET. Underwater UAP/USO question referred to closed session. {CLUE}

This quote originates from yesterday's hearing. I am politely categorizing it as optimistic = “Any object that we encounter can likely be isolated, characterized, identified and, if necessary, mitigated,” Moultrie said. ['mitigated' is optimistic]

USO/UFO topic deferred to closed session. Why might USOs be of special interest? Closed session highlights via twitter: "Today, the former head of the French Spy agency DGSE has said UAPs were detected moving underwater at the speed of sound - that's one mile in 4.6 9secs." Ross Coulthart 

Another story to help illustrate that nugget. Operação Prato, a Brazilian Air Force investigation of a prolonged UFO flap in 1977-78, is one of the most important episodes in the history of world ufology. Link. Described in Unknown Boundaries.

UFO researcher Preston Dennett says, "USOs are seen all over the world, but one of the most active areas on our planet is off the coast of Southern California, specifically, the Santa Catalina and San Pedro Channel. This body of water has produced more than 150 documented cases of UFOs and USOs." He presents a few in this video.



Inspired to rethink the UFO/UAP/USO origin? Apply more imagination. 

What if UFOs originate from other dimensions? Wiki.

"Could “UFOs” and “Aliens” simply be us, but from the future?" 

Michael Masters, professor of biological anthropology at Montana Technological University in Butte is the author of Identified Flying Objects: A Multidisciplinary Scientific Approach to the UFO Phenomenon, Amazon. He's trying to encourage enquiring and discussion beyond a materialist view. 

"Why not argue that ET is actually a traveler from across the vastness of space, from a distant planet? Wouldn't that be a simpler answer? "I would argue it's the opposite," Masters responded. Link.

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Excellent timing - my interview with Tom Carey [we both watched the hearing. Tom is co-author of Witness to Roswell - 75th anniversary -- interview total = 600 people - witnesses - relatives - military = related to the incident in some fashion. Meticulous, fact-checked investigation and review of what happened at Roswell in 1947 and the extensive measures involved in witness intimidation (gov sanctioned), denial and disinformation designed to prevent disclosure of facts related to the case. Interview on iHeart.

Tom Carey and Donald Schmitt have gone to extreme lengths to track down anyone who might have been involved that could provide accurate details and background that could be corroborated by others who were there. Deathbed revelations are telling. Witness to Roswell, 75th Anniversary Edition: Unmasking the Government's Biggest Cover-up, Amazon.

Time spent on this endeavor: More than 3 decades.

Related to the Roswell story: MK Ultra, Operation Paper Clip and Wernher von Braun 
Time for a review. Operation Paper Clip. Annie Jacobsen's presentation is worth a refresh. YouTube.


Prior to posting my Roswell interview - another Reality check: Sasquatch is also real. 


“We are hollow bones, blessed with the breath of life, to heal our Soul and help consciousness to evolve.” -
 Sunbow TrueBrother. 

2 part interview exploring (mostly) unseen others existing among and alongside us. Sunbow is author of The Sasquatch Message to Humanity: Conversations with Elder Kamooh, Amazon. 

Check out his website to find out more about Sasquatch. Stories include contributions from readers about their own Sasquatch encounters. Website.

Some of the experiences mentioned in our conversation: Insight from Hopi Elders, the existence of ancient relics from crashed UFOs, Mind speak with Sasquatch, Star Elders and UFO mothership sighting.


From Skinwalker Ranch in Utah to Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona and Bempton in the UK, science and history writer/researcher *Andrew Collins provides extraordinary evidence for the existence of a global network, containing suspected trans-dimensional portals. Podcast Link.

*I have an interview scheduled with him on the recently released Origins of the Gods: Qesem Cave, Skinwalkers, and Contact with Transdimensional Intelligences, Amazon.


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New Normals, Pets, Paranormal Entertainment and Eats; Gerbil Art, UFOs and Choc Chip Cookies


“Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.” - Steven Wright, Goodreads quotes.


OddsnEnds - 
  • UFO sightings increasing? Unidentified Ariel Phenomena on Youtube recently posted a pilot sighting near Monterrey, Nuevo Leon on March 28, 2020. Source: MUFON
    Video with Pilots talking about what they are seeing.
  • Check out another blog tracking sightings. Trueblog.
  • Social Distancing effect demonstrated in one brilliant visual. Twisted Sifter.
  • When face masks are a wardrobe essential -  cleaning tips are needed. MSN.
  • Fine Art for Gerbils [Image] Quarantine edition. Newsweek
  • Soundtrack for Dogs. 8 hours NOT MUSIC  for Dogs (and possibly Cats). YouTube.
  • Survival of the adaptable. Evolution: Lizard science. CNN.
  • British primatologist and scientist Jane Goodall blamed human behavior for the coronavirus pandemic, calling it "our disregard for nature," according to Agence France-Presse. "Because as we destroy, let's say the forest, the different species of animals in the forest are forced into a proximity and therefore diseases are being passed from one animal to another, and that second animal is then most likely to infect humans as it is forced into closer contact with humans," she said. The Hill.
  • Dan Aykroyd's first script for Ghostbusters was completely different - set in the future with interdimensional and off planet travel. "The last thing to be scrapped from Aykroyd's original draft was the ending, which saw the ghost hunters being taken away to different dimensions." TheThings
  • Update on Ghostbusters: Afterlife. Release date has shifted from July 2020 to March 5, 2021. IGN. Trailer: Main Site Ghostbusters.
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History Channel is airing The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. Season one Preview Link.
Jeremy Corbell's earlier film offers additional insight behind the phenom.

Recently posted, an extended interview from the film Hunt for the Skinwalker.



David Paulides
has posted a 4th installment highlighting Skinwalker Ranch on his youtube channel. Link. Addressing illnesses on the ranch and a Shaman perspective.
He also references Ufologist Bruce Macabee. Info on Bruce.
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Rediscovering the Kitchen? Don't know about you but lockdown has definitely changed our menu. Experimenting with rice and beans. Not so bad. Lots of potatoes, onions and soup.

Definitely time to branch out without getting complicated.

  • Bookmarked Pizza- in-an-ice-cube-tray. Appx. 13 minutes into the video. YouTube.
  • Netflix Awesome! Freestyle baking with abandon ... who wants cake? Nailed It! 
  • BIG Thank you -Doubletree Hotel released their milk enhancing Choc Chip Cookie recipe. Freeze leftover cookie dough for later batches. Enjoy! USA Today

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Food for thought: We are all doing our best to adjust to a new normal, knowing the old normal might not be an option going forward.


via John E. L. Tenney on Twitter
Yet, our unknown/unexplained remains the same unknown/unexplained ever-constant in a world of chaos.Maybe it wasn't clear enough just how normal the unknown/unexplained is. 

Nothing here is what it seems. 
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Recommend watching Travis: The True Story of Travis Walton/trailer.
Home site for the film: TravisWaltontheMovie, available on ebay.

Recommend reading John Foster UFOs. Blog.
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Stay curious. Be well.


Posting the podcast home quarantine version (longer interviews). 
Thank you for listening!

Harmonics, Frequency, Remote Viewing, UFOs, Bigfoot, Anomalies .... Experiencers and Questions


"If you use discipline and do it repeatedly, you get better." CIA Remote Viewer, Gabrielle Pettingell on Remote Viewing - The Martial Art of the Mind, YouTube.


OddsnEnds - 
  • It's about time UFOs got more coverage. George Noory. Mystery Wire.
  • They're out there. Indie film example: Curse of the Man Who Sees UFOs. 
  • Science cool - a new way to see DNA activity in a cell - Discover
  • Bigfoot spotted alongside highway? Then came take 2 = Daylight view. Traffic Cam sighting turns into... Unexplained Mysteries
  • The age of distraction..."My dad was sitting with his back to the window reading a newspaper and half watching our crappy black and white television, and at the same time, listening to the radio.

    I jumped up, told him, almost yelling, “There is a UFO!” I have no idea why I thought so, I just knew. My dad proceeded to keep his nose in the newspaper, listening to the radio station that came across the lake from Michigan.

    He basically said “Whatever, funny stuff kid.” He never looked up from his paper.

    ...Until the announcement on the radio about the UFO sightings.

    Six-year-old Jeremy Liebig drew a picture in his journal from 1979
    . Link.
  • UFO and implant. "I've kept this secret for 40 years." Terry Lovelace, a 64 year-old lawyer and former assistant attorney general. YouTube.

Revelation in the "download"... Geometry and Harmonics with Eric Rankin.



Takeaway: Follow the Coincidences.
Experience Sonic Geometry.  Tour and contact info. Sonic Geometry Movie. Link.
Visit the Integraton.

Newsletter FYI - Remote Viewing/Remote Perception News - with Paul H. Smith.
We have just published our remote viewing and applied intuition instructional course schedule for 2020. There are courses planned all the way into July, including our first-ever public "Two-day Dowsing for Remote Viewers Course" and a "One-Day Sketching for Remote Viewers Course." And, of course, several of our highly-praised controlled remote viewing course.

Click here to see the options. Bonus video: How to Do a Simple Remote Viewing. Link.



Wendy's Coffeehouse - 

12/29/19 Replay Paula Lenz and her Shared Death Experience with her brother. Link

1/5/20 Replay Marian Rudnyk, a former NASA Astronomer sees UFOs. And MIBs? Link.

New Show KCMO Talk Radio 710 AM, January 12 - Lura Ketchledge NDE, Paranormal, PSI After effects, Health. With Zombies and Horses on the side.

Cradle - Sci-Fi Short Film, plus UFOs, EMFs, Miracles, WTFs and OMGs ...Bioelectric U

*Bioelectric - “The Universe in which we find ourselves and from which we can not be separated is a place of Law and Order. It is not an accident, nor chaos. It is organized and maintained by an Electro-dynamic field capable of determining the position and movement of all charged particles. For nearly half a century, the logical consequences of this theory have been subjected to rigorously controlled conditions and met with no contradictions.”- Source. Blueprint for Immortality, Harold Saxton Burr, Read.


OddsnEnds -
  • Miracle x 3. Train crossing signal out-of-order. OMG caught on cam: YouTube.
  • Re: Earth's ever weakening magnetic field. Will 2019 be the year the poles flip? Science Alert.
  • Believe it or not. The skeptic and a prophecy: What the Psychic Saw: Aeon (video).
  • Red Sphere UFO. Video. Christmas Eve 2018. Comments suggest multiple locations logged the same anomaly. Unexplained.
  • Triangle UFO. Hesston, KS, July 2018. Stan Seba, KS MUFON, unexplained.
  • 6-year-old calls on Alexa for some homework Math help. UPI. Mom not amused.
  • New Year - greeting a new mystery - NASA close encounter with a Kuiper Belt object.
  • Porch party next door. UPI. Dog busted. 

Sci-Fi. On the spaceship Cradle, a lonely teenager dreams of a home she has never known. An accident cripples the ship and she must race the clock to unlock the secrets of her past…and discover her future...

 

"Cradle" by Damon Duncan
Subscribe and watch more sci-fi shorts on DUST


*NOTE: Today - in my possession - a manuscript discovered among the files and recently published by the Estate of Ingo Swann connects more dots: Psychic Literacy. Page 235, The Bioelectric Human is exactly what I need to see.

Following the recommendation to read Blueprint for Immortality, I discover the world I was first introduced to in 1998, by the non-corporeal entity who connected to me via a nightlight.

Given the term 'Bioelectric' for the first time in 1998. That is how the Nightlight Energy described the nature of our connection. The flickering, blinking interaction of the nightlight in my presence is due to - as I was told  -"a Bioelectric response". (Talking to Nightlights)

I had no clue at that time what the word meant and nowhere to go with the information. For that matter, the situation was so new and unexpected. I was completely overwhelmed with the presence and consumed with developing my PSI abilities and automatic writing skill. I focused on transcribing the channeled notes and opted to pursue clarification of the information (if possible) at a later date.

Twenty years later, clarification has been an interesting (and oddly entertaining) process. Our connection continues. Coached and guided from higher realms to develop and hone hidden aspects of our being, Telepathy is a key component.


Related Content - Metaphysics:
  • Spirit Guides - Iris Belhayes with Enid Amazon. 17th printing. An introduction to Multi-dimensional Reality. (One of my recent finds a the Half Price Books store.)
  • Opening to Channel - Sanaya Roman and Duane Packer. Discovered this book a decade prior to incorporating the information into daily use while channeling The Energy - aka/The Nightlights, never suspecting the crucial role it would play. In retrospect, the book was a breadcrumb.
  • The Body Electric - Robert O. Becker. Read the review and then read the book. More information on Robert O. Becker. Site
  • EMF Research - Site

Wendy's Coffeehouse 12/30 - Joe McQuillen - My Search for Christopher on the Other Side. A father finds reality isn't what he thought. After the death of his son (Boat accident tragedy while he was away at college.), a few words from a Medium sent him on an entirely new path. In AA, 33 years sober. Life after Death? Joe has an entirely new take on life now.


Thank you for listening!
Stay curious.

Shifting Dimensions, Water UFOs, History, Science and Life Snippets

"I guess I’m trying to subjectify the universe, because look where objectifying it has gotten us. To subjectify is not necessarily to co-opt, colonize, exploit. Rather it may involve a great reach outward of the mind and imagination." - Ursula K. Le Guin, Brain Pickings


Oddsnends -
  • Potential. Nessie sighting. Tourist faints. Source: Loren Coleman on Twitter
  • UFOs and Water. In, out, under and over. Lots of sightings reported. Book by Carl Feindt on Amazon. 4.9 out of 5. 10 Reviews including: "A Monumental Work on Phenomena Too Long Neglected. An Investigative Tour de Force! By Andrew on November 14, 2010
    - Follow Newsletter from George Filer, New Jersey MUFON/National UFO Center
  • Perfect timing. Livestream from the bottom of the Ocean. Now through May (2018). NOAA's 'Okeanos Explorer' in the Gulf of Mexico. Motherboard
  • Thank you to whomever added my blog to StumbleUpon. Much appreciated!
  • The Fish Tank Thermometer Spy Caper. Really. Business Insider
  • All that plastic polluting the water? Reportedly created, by accident, a mutant enzyme that eats plastic. Hoping it is super hungry! The Guardian
  • If there was a civilization prior to Humans, could we track it? The Atlantic
UFO Stalker. Date: 11/18/2016. Events this detailed are incredibly helpful for experiencers trying to connect the dots.

Inspiring UFO/ET curious, a cast of recognizable names in Fastwalkers: Steve Bassett, Jim Marrs, Robert Dean, Michael Salla, Stanton Friedman, Steven Greer, Richard Boylan, Jaime Maussan, Paola Harris, etc...




Martin/UFO Disclosure Group. YouTube Subscribe
Facebook Subscribe
Website UFO Disclosure Group
Main site for the Film: Fastwalker Products and extended DVDs


- Nod to a fantastic Human Interest series on SLATE: Interview With an Old Person. Living time capsules. Two examples:

Robert Carlson from Pasedena, 87
By Christina Cauterucci
What’s the best piece of advice someone’s ever given you? After you’ve written something, rewrite it. And then after you’ve rewritten it, read it again, and then rewrite it again. There isn’t anything you’ve written that’s worthwhile and important that can’t be improved. Of course, at some point you’ve got to put it down, especially if somebody’s paying for it.

Gertrude Johnson Howard from Phoenix, 82
By Christina Cauterucci
On writing her book: What is the book about? I’m going to name it 'Life Is a Vision'. The first time I saw a vision I was a child in a cotton field—I was about 9 or 10 years old, and we were three children chopping cotton on a cotton row. I saw this person flying through the sky and where the arms were, it was wings. It flew down, this person, and it just stood on its feet and stood right in front of me, and I fainted.

Reminiscent of children who saw Butterfly People, during the Joplin Tornado. STLToday


Wendy's Coffeehouse -
4/22 - Terry Albright (2) Picking up where we left off. Frequency and UFOs.
4/29 - John Alexander, Reality Denied. With a foreword by Uri Geller, I prefer to see it as multidimensional awareness checking in.
5/6 - Ron Wheelock, Gringo Shaman, Sacred Plants. Two decades in Peru. He's from Independence, Kansas.

KCMO podcast site update. I'll post when I have details.
Thank you for listening!
Stay Curious.

UFO Sightings Desk Reference, Cheryl Costa, ETs, Belief, Neutrinos and Epigenetics

“At the atomic level, matter does not even exist with certainty; it only exists as a tendency to exist.”-  Bruce H. Lipton, The Biology of Belief: Unleashing the Power of Consciousness, Matter and Miracles

Here are links for the topics referenced in my show, 12/6/17, Conscious Living on Empower Radio regarding the Wendy's Coffeehouse (podcast already up!) interview with Cheryl Costa on what will undoubtedly become a 'go to' Ufology resource, the UFO Sightings Desk Reference: United States of America 2001-2015

"It is the reference “U.F.O. researchers dreamed of having,” Gordon G. Spear, emeritus professor of physics and astronomy at Sonoma State University in California, writes in the foreword." - From the piece on Cheryl in the New York Times: UFOs Everywhere!
  • After talking with Cheryl, I do a quick search and here it is. A sighting with the pertinent earmarks:  Dog, Smoker, Daily routine. Let the dog outside. Boom: Columbia, Mo. Sighting Dec. 5, 2017. Case Number 88571. UFO Stalker, Massive in size, shaped like a boomerang. All the neighborhood dogs were barking. Reflective material on the craft made it seem almost transparent, surrounded by cloud like substance. He tried to take a photo but it didn't appear on the camera.
  • The UFO I reported in 2013 [wendy] was small and it was inside the house. Incredible moment for me, to say the least. Awakened by the soft growling of the dog, I thought the cat was creeping in, then saw an object with glowing lights hovering near the window and close to the ceiling. Dinner plate sized, round, the lights were clear and 2 - 3 inches in diameter: red and green. I focused hard, intending to imprint the memory, count the lights and detect a pattern (none). Instantaneously, it shifted to the outside of the house. Through the wall, without a sound. I could see the lights between the blinds and understood it would not allow further contact. My husband slept through it and the dog never barked. Alert but not threatened.
  • In the UFO Sightings Desk Reference: United States of America 2001-2015, Cheryl Costa and Linda Miller Costa provide charts, maps, numbers and stats. Patterns emerge. Questions remain but the blueprint for understanding the phenom starts here. It doesn't cover Alien Abduction. Cheryl says they took a lot of flack for that but rather than stories, the numbers are the focus. Detailing some of our conversation in upcoming post. Already up on the podcast site, interview airs on KCMO Talk Radio 710 - December 10, 2017, 8pm central. 
  • The stories are out there. Ex: After an encounter with a UFO and the occupants within, the Artist began producing artwork in an effort to reduce fear and educate and inform whomever on the planet might have an interest that there are ETs who want their presence known, ETs who appear to be bookmarking a date for a more public introduction at some point in our intergalactic future. 

OddsnEnds - 
  • Fascinating Animal Science. Learning how Pigeons perceive Time and Space could upend our current view of time and space being different dimensions. (Might connect a few dots on how ETs/Space Intelligences can shift the time-line:
  • Particle Physics experiment underway. IceCube Collaboration. Are Neutrinos the key to discovering higher dimensions? Newsweek
    • In my contact with spirit guides and others in the non-corporeal realm, they refer to themselves as 'transdimensional'. Contact is telepathic and varies in intensity.
  • Open Minded People view reality differently, revealed in testing of "binocular reality." More to the point, open minded people remain flexible to a broader range of sensory input. That aspect is demonstrated in an exercise highlighting 'selective attention' ...
    Take the test. Did you see it?
    • Could apply to situations where some people 'see' ghosts, ufos and paranormal phenomena while others at the same scene 'see' nothing. And both are right, given their unique perspective.
  • An Uber driver caught the incredible moment a semi truck wiped out but the scene stealer is the meteor fly-by in the background. Mirror
  • Newsweek Special Edition: Life Beyond Earth - Includes a piece questioning the complete lack - after Project Blue Book - of gov interest or dialogue on UFOs. Research: Archives,gov
    • That's a lead into the treasure trove of declassified docs house on The Black Vault.
  • Consciousness and Epigenetics. "Through the research of Dr. Lipton and other leading-edge scientists, stunning new discoveries have been made about the interaction between your mind and body and the processes by which cells receive information. It shows that genes and DNA do not control our biology, that instead DNA is controlled by signals from outside the cell, including the energetic messages emanating from our thoughts." - Biology of Belief
    • Upgrade your beliefs. Anything IS possible. 

To be continued ....

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New Witness gives Phoenix Lights a fresh angle

"If the intelligence of these creatures were sufficiently superior to ours, they might choose to have little, if any, contact with us." - Brookings Institution report on extraterrestrial life. Quoted in New York Times, December 15, 1960.

March 13, 1997 is a standout event in UFO case history. Numerous witnesses reported seeing a large pattern of unexplained lights over Phoenix. Adding a helpful footnote in this case, a new witness has come forward to share his story. His sighting includes details regarding a mile wide object over Prescott, Arizona during that same time frame.

This animation recreates what the witness saw above Prescott, AZ. in 1997.



Nice bonus in the comments section. Another witness affirms the animation as a good representation of what he also saw while rafting on the Verde River. Here is his post:

-- "My brother and I saw that boomerang shaped craft during the daytime on the 13th of March 1997 about an hour before sunset. We were rafting on the Verde River approximately 5 river miles upstream from Horseshoe Dam. We were on the last day of a four day river trip that started out in Camp Verde and ended at the boat dock at Horseshoe Lake on the 14th.

The “Boomerang” was Silver in color with NO lights, corners, lines, windows, doors, hatches, ports, hard angles of any kind. The skin appeared to be as smooth and rounded as a blob of mercury from a broken thermometer. It was directly above our heads at 12 o’clock. I would guess it to of been about a mile high. It wasn’t flying and was totally silent. It was stationary in the air and didn’t move any direction at all. We watched it for a half hour or so, it did not move or make a sound.

As we were both wet, cold and it was starting to get dark we had to stop looking at it to go about gathering fire wood and setting up camp before we lost all light. It was gone about 20 minutes later. Neither of us saw it leave. I looked up after setting up my tent and it was gone.

What was truly amazing about the “Boomerang” was its size. It was really, really BIG. REALLY BIG!!! Yours is the only drawing of the “Phoenix Lights” that comes close to what I saw. Thanks for the video, Bill" --

Misc and Etc ....

Phoenix Lights and Out of the Blue links - The Phoenix Lights: A Skeptics Discovery that We Are Not Alone By Lynne D. Kitei The Phoenix Lights - 2009 "The weirdest thing about the documentary OUT OF THE BLUE is how weird it isn't." - TV Guide Out of the Blue - 2011

I am looking forward to seeing Ariel Phenomenon. Currently in post production, the film further examines the incident and re-interviews the children - now adults - who in 1994, experienced an extraordinary event. An event many in the world, even now, are challenged to fathom.

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Show Launch Week ... UFOs on deck ...
Saturday, at 6 am central time, Scott and Suzanne Ramsey join me on Wendy's Coffeehouse. Thirty years of research and volumes of data, some of which cost a small fortune to produce. We'll examine a blast from the past: The Aztec UFO Incident.

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